Session Start: Fri Jun 30 20:54:01 2000 *** Now talking in #tlcinterview *** Vince|TOR has joined #tlcinterview *** Retrieving #tlcinterview info... *** Merl|TOR changes topic to 'Welcome TLC!' *** SM|afk has joined #tlcinterview *** abz has joined #tlcinterview howdy guys :) hiya :P hold a sec gotta get to my house so i dont get whacked sup ok so how you all been? SM RULES Been enjoying retirement I play lots of canasta and shuffleboard and get to wear shirts and pants that don't even remotely match sm's into plaid job retirement? My in-game retirement that is. In real life i'm still a wage slave. how old are you? heh k hehe * SM|afk clicks heels good, sm's a little . . . slow, if you know what i mean wtf? Ok lets get this started Heh something said... not good... Ok my first question for both of you fellas is, What is your real reason for quitting Ultima Online The last couple patches took the wind out of our sails. A complete and utter loss of what little faith we still had left in OSI We basically stopped when the anti-macro code came in and at the time it was a real pain to rebuild chars and too risky. I mean sure, we knew they were world class fuckups, but the last string of patches were shitty even by OSI's almost non-existant standards. *** Cruzader has joined #tlcinterview the weap changes i don't mind all that much. Is that your real reason's for quitting? yeah *** SM|afk is now known as SM|TLC wow sup cruzader *** Cruzader is now known as Cruz|TLC Howdy there Vince =) The anti-macro code and trammel, are probably the two main things. It wasnt hard for me to rebuild my mage when he died twice at stat loss If they ever put in the resetting of the short-term counter on death we mighta stuck around. And the inability to remove our underwear... that was a big one. It can probably be done now lol But we stopped for 2-3 months and dont feel like putting in the effort to get going again. So your view on the UO:R patch isn't to good eh? uh .. . . no Nay The no recall + stat loss + no viable way to rebuild probably sums it up pretty nicely. Oh god! I forgot about the no recall for agressors thing. That's huge too... UO:R was the straw after the 14 other straws that broke the camels back and then ground its corpse into the sand. Especially with our style when the decision on leaving an area occured after we started an attack. Pretty easy to rebuild a char... Well, do it 10-15 times and see how jazzed you are about doing it :) yea Easy but time consuming I'm an expert at that. We haven't had to many problems. Only thing we have problems with is getting the guild all on at the same time. When we died it just meant we couldnt play for 2 days, but it all could be macroed/active macroed. I see... Most of us had very little in game time. oh I mean had we really wanted to, we probably could have continued the raids. It was just a slap in the face though. OSI's message was loud and clear... "we don't want your business anymore" Yeah, they put in 3 or 4 major things against us in a row, and it was already a pain in the ass, and member turnover was fairly high. phone afk So did you really consider your'selves PlayerKillers? That was dumb question but im trying to think em up as i go... umm . . yeah Im not a pro heh. Well, when went out, we attacked everyone, everything blue. Ugh, edit that :P You had to be full-stat loss red to be in guild, and attacking everything blue was the routine. so yeah What do you guys do now that you have all the free time in your lives? Counterstrike =) Play The Damned a little. we're kind of spread out Do you guys miss the action of OSI run shards? definately I definately miss the population of players the OSI servers brought. If they had a decent old style shard we'd probably be back Hmmm Yeah, The Damned is pretty deserted but the rules and gm attention is great. Vince do you have any questions or you just gonna sit there and watch? heh OSI don't want us though :( Vince is a shy guy heh * abz rubs Vince's tummy OSI has definetly proved they aren't in it for the profit. I don't think so... Although a lot of people think they do all these things just for the $'s But in my opinion all they've done is drastically shorten the lifespan of the game the learning curve used to be around a year and a half, now its a few months. If that... People might be happy now, but they're going to get bored quick. Yea I don't know why OSI doesn't just remove this UO:R crap. I've seen a few polls where tons of ppl hated it... oh sorry I was looking at something Well, they don't have much history in admitting when they're wrong. The screaming over the randomness in special weapon hits and precasting removal was fairly unanimous, but they just ignored it. So what kind of people are you guys in real life? I mean you had a funky theme in the game.... :) Oh boy economics instructor student =( SM works for canadian government. Put this on merlin osi has there head up there asses all the time there all fucking fags if i knew where they lived in RL like i would go kill them AbZ can you give more detail on your life style :P hah And also that gay Resistance guild before i quit this game im pking them all I teach at a couple of school, part-time. Cool And the mighty Cruzader is a student eh? Aye, a high school student Resistance has as many cool people/idiots as any other guild. Going to be a senior this fall... How old are you Cruz? 16 He's a youngin. Wow you must be smart to be a senior early... Youngest in TLC Hmm, VJ and JR are pretty young too i think. Well, I turn 17 in August, so I'm right on track actually. =-) So AbZ how did your meeting earlier turn out? Heheh, not too well. Sorry to see that... Not many showed up, but since i didn't put out 40 reminders like i normally do, it was expected. yea i know exactly how that is. I'm just trying to get the troops informed, and accounts set up right now. So no biggy... Cruz do you play the Damned? Aye, I'm actually a GM there as well. < Whats both of your opinions on that shard? I have 2 char's there, it's ok there. Well, there seems to be a lag problem as of lately. Yea, im always lagged there. They have vowed that will be fixed soon. Actualy the lag is great, just the freezes.... :) What kind of rolls do you guys play on the Damned? I bet you could guess and get it right. Heh... We play the roles of newbies. Hang around banks asking for spare change Now I know thats wrong. Hehe, just getting set up, but it's pretty quick there. Haven't started pk'ing yet, but it wont be too long.... We've got TLC headquarters, almost set up. Back... i hate the phone... I played there a little bit, only one person liked me.... everyone else hated me. I think it was Tarus that was cool with me. But that wasn't his character's name. Bloodheart? Yea. That's his pk's name... I know... Ahhh... Them guards there can run.... That I hate. Blood's cool to bad he sold his account. So what will you TLC guysbe doing with your OSI accounts now that you don't play? Cancelling or selling... I have a little sister that plays UO, so she gets to use it. SM and I have been planning on selling for a while but we've been lazy... Aww :=D Yes yes... very lazy... Laziness is in our code of conduct, along with procrastination. Ok this is out of the interview but whats going on with the TLC house? Want a pick up? Yea but not yet. I mean I wanna know what your doing with it. We'll sell it. k, just say when, i'll snag you with my blue. Oh... Refreshing it every week, that's it. hehe I would really love to own that house, and would pay dearly. But only in game gold :( I have no job in real life, can't afford much. Too bad in game gold is worthless now thanks to OSI incompetance. hehe That duping spree was horrid, took them forever to fix that. I hate to say it... I heard about another duping thing going on. But if Dr. Twister had still been around.... It would have been fixed pronto, OSI does nothing they don't have to. A few houses fell with over 110million in UO checks. Either that or they are so out of touch with their player base, *looks shocked* that they have no idea what actually is happening in game. The only time anything got fixed promptly, was when Dr. Twister posted it. Yea.. They kept a close eye on his site. I mean seriously, they actually listen to those whining newbies on the COB board. Those morons haven't had an original thought since 1986. 86? Trammel was a new idea! Trammel was a gay idea. Ok let me rephrase... "orginal and not terrible" Trammel was a horrible idea.... I think all the changes should have stayed in Trammel, and not Shard Wide. Splitting the shard into areas might be okay, but theres barely any difference between Felucca and Trammel right now. And there's not enough people playing for all this land mass Well OSI got what they wanted. Hardly any PlayerKillers. Yeah, I look at the bounty board and its just sad. I can just picture a bunch of chubby, pale slobs sitting around the Dev team table in Austin, Texas. "Hey i've got a great idea, we've got a shrinking active playerbase... why not double the landmass?" Like 200gp just to get on the thing everyone with 5-20 murders Hey now, I only had 40 but they took me off the board :( They wanted everyone to have a house... which is fine by me. Just limit each player to ONE house Sure that would screw me and most of the older players over but we really have no right to have multiple houses while many players have none need a kill within 2 weeks or bounty gets wiped Aye, I got wiped as well bah, all they've needed is secure trading I was on there it felt like more than two weeks True, a secure house trading system combined with some sort of house maintenance system would have eliminated the "real estate tycoons" with 5+ houses houses were selling for 100-150k before the duping sprees a newb can earn that they just never let the market operate properly Aye Agreed, the dev team needs to take some basic economics courses Supply and demand? Zero-sum world? * SM|TLC gasps So if they took out Stat Loss permanetly would any of you guys come back? In a heartbeat hwo about you AbZ? hell yeah I'm sure Cruzader would hehe Yes for sure Stat loss had its place it curbed the rampant pkers but now with barneyland nobody has any reason to complain boot, rampant pkers were fun :) I have heard numerous times that OSI will take Stat Loss out We've all heard the run around if they get pk'd its their own damn fault What OSI didn't realize is that pks and thieves helped maintain the economic balance They created an element of danger that OSI's piss poor AI failed to bring now the AI is worse than before people were reluctant to enter dungeons etc and cautious when they did so Now with barneyland people hunt monsters much like one would harvest a crop and also allowed people to meet each other easily no danger, no excitement lol when you went to a dungeon you depended on other blues around you just abuse the poor AI.... hit the lever, get a prize.... rinse and repeat I never depend on anyone, well hardly... got warnings about pk's, fiought with people you didnt know and met a whole helluva lot of people just from getting killed at the same time no one even needs to talk to anyone anymore Exactly, reds were the universal enemy of the blues... the one thing that brought them together and united them against a common foe. Vince do you have any input upon this? vince agrees with us wholeheartedly I know that and I as well do... Our logic has stunned him into silence ;) i can see it in his eyes heh his soft curves .. . supple buttocks... Crap, who gave the old men the viagra?! * SM|TLC sproing * Merl|TOR Slaps SM|TLC around a bit with a large clitorous... hehe heh tsk tsk Well, I don't really know what else to ask... you guys pk much merlin? One thing that amazes me We do what we can... Not like every day though in a "roleplaying game" we play a role... that of sex crazed lunatics a few members are suffering stat loss and rebuilding yet all the self-proclaimed "roleplayers" mock us for it bah, they love us only osi hates us OSI is all about the bottom line I can remember getting killed a few times by you guys and saying "OMG Im gonnaa kill them fuckers some day" in the short term and the whiny fucks who flood them with emails about how they got pk'd and lost their favourite donkey yeah, we gave you a goal But as it comes down to it, I would kill to be much like you guys people used to wait for us to come by We were evil in a game that sorely lacked any sort of conflict I still get requests from people to return to napa... These were the people we preyed upon who now plead with us to return so they have something to oppose And I wish you all would return.... How can you have heroes with no villains? Its impossible damn i ahte thiefs just lost 350 each reg To many players, the villains are the Wyverns and Drakes and al that thieves on the other hand . . they need to be lined up and shot heh yes very much true Thieves rocks err rock I have a thief he doesnt go off his porch steps heh I was a pure thief when the game stared thieves rock the house Well guys, I have not a clue of what to ask next... I guess you can pick me up now Abz np, i think we're bitched out yeah Meet my Laoric char in yew on roof at bank where can i get you? k i will give you a rune to my house to get merlin Af!K k same for me yew bank but as with anything that was fun in this game... some pathetic losers who need to win all the time to get validation for their unsatisfying existances complained to OSI and had them remove it Ok i am there LOST CONN *** Disconnected Session Close: Fri Jun 30 22:53:49 2000 Session Start: Fri Jun 30 23:14:03 2000 *** Now talking in #tlcinterview *** Topic is 'Welcome TLC!' *** Set by Merl|TOR on Fri Jun 30 20:12:26 *** SM|TLC has left #tlcinterview *** Cruz|TLC has quit IRC (Leaving) cya guy's latah man *** abz has left #tlcinterview *** Disconnected Session Close: Fri Jun 30 23:30:20 2000